By Antonio D. French
Filed Wednesday, September 19, 2007 at 10:09 AM
Yesterday evening, Multimedia KSDK, Inc. filed a complaint with YouTube about our posting of a video contrasting a September 13 story by reporter Mike Owens which ended with a promise to air a tape of an allegedly crooked real estate seller "saying he makes regular payments of cash to the local alderman" with their September 14 follow-up story that makes no mention of the allegation. Labels: Media_Watch
At 5:29 PM we received notice that YouTube took that video off-line. Then late last night, around 1:00 AM, all of our videos went off-line. That's around the time KSDK Channel 5 filed a second complaint, this time on the posting of the original Sept 13 video. YouTube responded by suspending our account and taking all 500 of our videos off-line.
First, we believe our usage of Channel 5's video falls under the "Fair Use" doctrine, the same doctrine Channel 5 presumably operates under each week as they use video content from other sources in their news broadcasts. In fact, PubDef's own video has appeared on local television without our expressed written consent, presumably under "Fair Use".
Secondly, KSDK never contacted us to ask us to remove the content and its labeling of us as a copyright infringer with YouTube is wrong and has caused us and our readers quite an inconvenience.
As we work this issue out with YouTube, we'd just like our readers and our community to know what's going on, and the extent to which KSDK has gone to crush fair journalistic criticism.
28 Comments:
Obviously they are threatened by Antonio French's superior reporting of the issues, especially since he has no salary.
9/19/2007 10:46 AM
If the shoe was on the other foot, Channel 5 would be hiding in the bushes, Antonio, waiting to do an ambush interview. Perhaps you should do the same. I think you should have a "Question for Channel 5" competition.
My entry: What are you hiding KSDK Channel 5?
By the way, if Channel 5 ever decides to tell us why it never reported the name of the Alderman getting the payoff, PubDef will have to post it here for me to see. I have turned Channel 5 off.
9/19/2007 11:02 AM
Once again, Mike Owens and Channel 5 are shamelessly attacking a black man. But then, that's what we expect from them.
9/19/2007 11:26 AM
Channel 5 is the absolute worst reflection of St. Louis. The city they portray doesn't even resemble the real St. Louis. Channel 5, the Post-Dispatch, and the rest of them could just cease to exist and I wouldn't get a damn.
9/19/2007 12:12 PM
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9/19/2007 12:38 PM
This is a pretty contorted way of distracting people from the name of that alderman.
9/19/2007 12:38 PM
Obviously, Mike Owens did not have accurant information and backed off.
He should go on air and apolize because he has left it in the minds of people that some African American alderman is corrupt and dirty. People will still believe this because hey, KSDK reported it.
I will never turn my television to Channel 5 again until they address this allegation, which I am sure I will learn from Def Pub if they do.
This entire Missouri region has been for a very long time under serious demonic control and attack.
9/19/2007 12:39 PM
Saying this jokingly. How dare you take on a media giant. Don’t you know they are oldest and the best in St. Louis. If you don’t believe KSDK is the best just ask them.
Antonio you do a wonderful job presenting the news keep up the good work.
9/19/2007 1:16 PM
Mike Owens appears to be the most anti-black reporter in this country! I guess his cronies that dictate for him what black to attack,hadn't given him consent to attack the alderman!Antonio,your journalistic skills are far superior to Mike Owens!
9/19/2007 1:17 PM
3910 Vest, the address on the document shown in the video, is in Bosley Sr's Ward.
9/19/2007 1:33 PM
Antonio don't you understand that you can't lift your news story from another station or paper. As I have said before you really can't just print what you want. New precedent is being set everyday regarding poorly run blogs. Believe it or not half the junk the Post writes can be called to questions. Besides isn't there a such thing as ethics?
9/19/2007 1:54 PM
Oh Veronica (or whoever).
The story wasn't lifted. The failure to follow up is completely different than KSDK's story.
And we all know the Post is a mess. That's why we're reading PubDef!
9/19/2007 1:59 PM
Veronica O'Brien,don't you understand that you can't act like a nut in public and not expect people to think that you are a nut?
9/19/2007 2:29 PM
This is the biggest bull I have ever heard. Channel 5 is a bully and a lazy bully at that. They have one of the worst websites in the city. Trying to get any information off there is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. They should feel lucky that you even mentioned them!
9/19/2007 3:32 PM
Oh, and Veronica is a crazy nut and should get a job.
9/19/2007 3:33 PM
You'll want to ambush Mike Owens (or ANY on air 5er) and ask them to describe what "Fair Use" means. Chances are they don't know what a gallon of milk costs and can't list four of the ten commandments either.
9/19/2007 7:21 PM
In a way, maybe we should take this as a positive since it shows that a relative Goliath like KSDK feels threatened.
9/19/2007 7:47 PM
The 'positive spin' does usually seem to negate at least some truth.
What do they report on SLPS? What did they report on Blairmont? St Louis' news channel... IN HD (in case you missed the biggest news of the century)! And I felt that even before they skunked the best news source in St Louis.
Does ethics mean 'look the other way' these days?
9/19/2007 8:26 PM
That damn whitey! If they say the alderman in question is black then we will know it is that damn whitey behind it!
I know a conspiracy when I see it. It is that damn team 44!
I bet this is all part of the plot to take over public schools, fire george, move white people into North city and to brainwash everyone! We must stop the man!
9/20/2007 8:46 AM
Come on, how many times can the elected board and few followers call Veronica a nut. This is why pubdef is not respected. Hey O'Brien a nut? The real nut is Richard Gaines
9/20/2007 9:10 AM
Have to agree the crazy campaign on O'Brien did not work. She has proven herself and put the naysayers in their place. O'Brien needs a job. How is she paying for the million dollar house she is living in. Move on haters and leave the sister alone. You cannot stop her. The voters love her
9/20/2007 10:32 AM
The two postings above are from that nutty acting Veronica O'Brien!
9/20/2007 12:22 PM
Pub Def ain't the only one insinuating that O'Brien is a nut.
Steve Gigerich did it first.
No, wait, it was Francis Slay.
And ArchPunt. And Arch City Chronicle.
Seems everyone agrees.
9/20/2007 1:12 PM
Also the Real Deal With George And Syl and The Real Deal With Sly And Tim ,on WGNU 920 insinuated that V.O'Brien is crazy. All of these people can't be wrong!!
9/20/2007 1:27 PM
Right all those people can't be wrong. The know who is crazy don't they. Just like everyone knows most of the crazy kid games come from, Helen, Purdy, Susan, Percy and his long time girlfriend Donna Jones.
Face it folks there are people that support O'Brien. No one supports your group. Even the union dumped you.
Crazy is the elected board holding meetings with no following.
9/20/2007 1:40 PM
Is anyone else crazy? So what are you all going to do with the crazy people that peut you in your place. Is KSDK crazy? No I heard French waqs really crazy. No Purdy is crazy. No Santa is crazy.
People get a life. You all are over.
Was anyone at the party Mary Armstrong gave Rick Sullivan last night? Hey she is crazy.
9/20/2007 1:44 PM
No Yolanda is crazy.
9/20/2007 1:48 PM
This is torture. Youtube is a POS. I see that they still haven't put back your 200 plus videos that they deleted without even so much as giving you the time of day.
http://www.youtube.com/user/PubDefTV
Please, please, please tell me why!? Why do you continue to host with youtube?
Please, take a note from Lofistl.com and other videobloggers and use a reputeable host that actually respects your rights like blip.tv. There is no future in youtube. :(
I'm struggling to understand why you would continue to user them. It makes no sense.
I realize youtube can get your videos in front of eyeballs, but there's NO reason to use them soley for hosting.
What I see others such as Ask A Ninja and Wallstrip doing (two of the top vlogs in terms of traffic) is I see them running their primary vlog using blip.tv or self hosting and then posting only heavily branded teaser clips to youtube.
The bottom line is this, youtube is using you, so use youtube just as strategically as they use you. Use it for marketing.
Run your videoblog off blip.tv. It does automatic transcoding and cross posting of posts to your blog and can provide QT, Flash and other formats for syndication to iTunes, Miro, Fireant and others.
FYI, I'm one of the founders of Mefeedia. I normally wouldn't comment but I see these cases of media companies abusing the DMCA and Youtube throwing their users content out with the morning trash time and again.
Youtube is a monoculture, 10 years from now none of this original revolution in video will exist. When Brewster McKahle of Archive.org talks of a "digital darkage" youtube is EXACTLY the type of thing he's talking about.
Not only will youtube never give it's users a fair shake on making money off their videos (they have 1.6 billion to pay off), but as soon as hosting people's archive of videos doesn't suit them anymore they'll delete them. Their TOS states as much.
At the very least sites like blip allow you to download and archive your clips to your own server. I believe they still allow you to cross post to archive.org which is archival.
9/28/2007 10:08 AM
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